Hey m@tes, as y'all know, this instance has been anti-corporate GenAI positive since it's creation and as such we've typically allowed such content to be posted freely. However in the last few weeks we've had a bunch of drama from GenAI haters who insist on coming into our comms and starting slap-fights. This caused us to vote on a new rule to have the mandate to clear out this constant friction. This worked to an extent, but I think we can help foster a better community with the larger threadiverse.
One issue a lot of anti-GenAI people keep bringing is that while they can block dedicated comms like [email protected], they don't have an easy option to avoid GenAI content in random other /0 comms as there's no way to filter it out. This kind of content has been seen to cause a lot of strife, because people complain about its existence, while /0 admins and mods based on the above rule, tend to sanction those complaining. This then causes drama loops with /c/YPTB and /c/FuckAI etc.
There is a good point to be made here that while we don't mind GenAI content in /0, there isn't a reason to not help others avoid it. So we want to institute the following soft rule by now:
Simply tag your posts which consist of primarily GenAI content with the [GenAI] tag in their title. Not only will frontends like Tesseract will natively parse this as a tag and display it accordingly, but people who dislike such content, can simply filter it out of their feeds. Eventually lemmy will add tags which will make this tagging more seamless, but for now a manual tag in the title will suffice.
This rule only applies to posts in non-explicit GenAI comms. The assumption is that people can simply block those comms completely anyway.
As I said, this is a soft rule for now. Soft in the sense that you're not going to be sanctioned for forgetting it, but we hope people will remind you to do so. This is a good-faith attempt by us to co-exist and help others avoid what they don't want to stumble onto, much like [NSFW] tags. So I hope you'll add do a good faith attempt to help us in this. Furthermore, people who come to posts tagged as GenAI explicitly to scold and start slap-fights, will give the admins and easier justification to clean up, since they could have just filtered out that content in the first place.
Cheers
This isn’t the first career to get steamrolled by new tech. That’s just how society works: new tools replace old jobs.
Did you feel this bad when factory workers in the Midwest lost jobs to robots and outsourcing? What about when textile machines wiped out jobs in Alabama? Or when electric streetlights put out-of-work the guys who used to light lamps by hand?
Did anyone mourn the bank tellers who lost their jobs to ATMs?
My point is, artists aren’t more special than the folks who came before. Tech changes things. It always has.
I was a professional artist for 35 years, I did design, illustration, layouts for marketing companies. Now AI can do all of that faster and better. A company would be crazy to pay me what I used to make. And you know what? I’m fine with that. I embraced it. I love new tech.
People who still want to paint/illustrate by hand can. People who still wanna buy their stuff can. Probably not full time job doing it anymore. Just like anything else. They are not special. MOST people work at jobs they don't like to pay the bills, then do their passion on the side.
If ya have a family to feed, you don't cry about not getting a job to illustrate the latest Flash comic book or your favorite DnD dungeon guide. You go get a job and put food on the table. And draw on the weekends.
Welcome to life. And we still have it way easier than the generations before us did. I know. Because I'm old. As bad as you think things are now, it's better than when I was coming up.
Until we get UBI, we gotta deal with what we have. But the idiot capitalist duopoly here in the US that Lemmy worships, is very much against UBI, so that's gonna take a while.
Meh, I love AI, so...
While art will likely never be completely replaced by AI due to passionate people doing it because they want to anyway, the fact that it is becoming less and less viable of a career path is depressing. Far less people will pursue art even as a hobby in a society that requires working and won't pay for art.
I don't think any Midwest factory workers particularly loved their job. There was little passion or soul behind it. Machines are meant to replace menial hard labor, not passion.
But that is true about anything. Wood working, farming, furniture making, clothes making, soap making, journalists. Even before AI,people stopped paying well for journalism. And yes, some midwest people DID love their job. I know, because I grew up there in the 80's when it all happened. I watched ENTIRE TOWNS die because of job loss. That's way worse and more impactful that some dude not being able to draw comics like he dreamed of.
I'm not saying loss of jobs should be celebrated, I'm saying it's no different that what has happened before. And I was also around in the 90's and 00's when mass layoff happened and white-color people shrugged and smugly said, "Learn to code." To fucking farmers.
Now those same people are crying about "coding" jobs on the horizon of being eliminated.
The vast majority of people work jobs they don't love and they aren't passionate about. Artists are not more special than anyone else. People who are truly passionate and want to create, will keep creating. Just less will be able to do it as a sole source of income. But MOST people have never gotten to do their passion as a sole source of income.
Especially worldwide. Peopl are fucking spoiled. "Oh the UA is so hard now." "So scary." "Art jobs are going away!"
Ya'll need to fucking go live in the real world and see how good we have it compared to everyone else. There are people that work their fingers to the bone, every day all day, just to survive. And do it all their lives.
And you people are crying about art jobs going away. Give me a fucking break!
Again, I'm not celebrating it. But that's not where your "sad" should be aimed. Your "sad" should be aimed at the class warfare that happens everwhere.
Obviously many of us have it better in the US than most of the world, that doesn't mean we can't complain if it's actively getting worse and harder to live. I can't get enough work, I don't eat enough and struggle to afford rent, my family was homeless in the past. While it's better here and I'm not getting bombed like many people are, it doesn't mean people in the US aren't struggling too. I am sad at the class warfare aspect of AI more than anything, it is being used by the wealthy to increase their power and wealth further, and in my view by using their services we are aiding their goals, even if minimally.
Of course not. Yes, homelessness, rent, etc, those are real issues! And likely to get worse. For sure. And worth working on solutions.
Being mad because SkateboardCyberpunkFurry999 can't pursue art as a passion and draw naked anime all day because ai slop is posted on dbzer0, seems like an inane thing to cry about. And I am seeing a lot of crying about it. lmao