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Context: i am in Europe so might be irrelevant to US.

I was thinking : we already have a usable solution to traffic jams. It's called parking lots, as the ones in airports. You drop your car, then you take public transport to go anywhere. So imagine doing the same, but on daily basis. Build many such parking spots outside of the city , irrigate with public transport, make the price reasonable for daily usage (fuck you Charles de Gaulle Airport and your 14€/day fee). Boom, reduces your traffic by X% every morning.

As someone who drives regularly from Reims to Paris, I d be glad if such option existed, so I wouldn't have to drive on Périphérique.

The two reasons I think it's not used is "planning" and "politicians". The latter isn't good at former.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 week ago (13 children)

We already have that, at least here in Hamburg it's called Park+Ride. Parking spots next to many suburban Metro stations, the ticket costs 2€ per day or 100€ per year if combined with a monthly subscription for the train.

That doesn't prevent Hamburg from being clogged up every day though. The two reasons I think it's not used by all those people that prefer standing in the traffic instead are "stupid" and "people". The latter are good at being the former 😉

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

damn, I thought my idea was original. Thanks for the feedback

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We have P+R also in France, in Paris it's called parking relais, there is 83 of them with 23000 parking spot. But even in smaller town (I live near Grenoble and there is P+R, sadly not use at is full potential because public transport in some are not up to pace, but its getting better) It is still a good idea :) hard to implement well, and it need a lot more that just parking spot to be useful.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

i ve been living in Paris for many years, and just learned about it..

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