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The Israeli government needs to release their hostages.
This is something that I see a lot and it's irks me the wrong way every time. I know that people on the internet get emotional, but we gotta stop abusing words. The word hostage describes something very specific, in this case it's this:
Basically a hostage is a prisoner that is specifically held captive to be used as a bargaining chip.
This is precisely the reason why the hostages taken by Hamas are called as such. They were taken with intention of using them to cut a deal with Israel later on. But in this case, Israel is very unlikely to use the people on this boat to negotiate any deal, we don't even know if they're even going to be detained or released once the ship gets routed to one Israel's ports. But if Israel does detain after the fact then that's just imprisonment.
So what term then? Political Prisoner? Arbitrarily Detained Prisoner? Torture Subject?
Genuine question, how did you come up with any of these? Do you just throw any random label without taking into account what they mean?
To be imprisoned means to be kept in confinement as a punishment. They're not prisoners by the definition of the word nor are they being tortured (like where did you even get this from?). If we were to label their current status accurately then they're arrestees in custody of Israel.
Starvation is a form of torture, and there are many reports alleging other forms of torture.
Do you have any evidence that this crew is being starved or tortured?
Palestinians in Israeli custody.
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2023/11/israel-opt-horrifying-cases-of-torture-and-degrading-treatment-of-palestinian-detainees-amid-spike-in-arbitrary-arrests/
You understand we're talking about this crew, right? You understand you posting this has zero relevance to the claim you made or the topic at hand, right?
Sorry if I gave you the impression I was talking about the crew, but after you mentioned Hamas's captives in general, my response was referring to Israeli captives in general.
I don't have disagreements with the point you're making. I was just confused why the topic switched from the crew being detained to Palestinians being unfairly imprisoned. They're not really the same thing.
Regardless though, apparently Israel has routed the boat to Ashdod and is detaining the activists in a nearby facility until they get deported to their respective countries. So I guess this conversation doesn't mean much since debating whether or not they're hostages isn't applicable anymore.
Detained suspect, Detained for National Security or equivalent is probably what goes on the paperwork. If they're held longer than reasonable repatriation takes, they would then become prisoners of some type.
Informally, prisoner is probably used the most, in spite of whatever is actually correct.
Suspect? All evidences show that they did nothing wrong
Damn Lemmy be stupid prickly looking for fascists to hate under every bush and purity tests as far as the eye can see. Y'all are silly.
I was talking about the likely terminology the Israeli gov would use in reference to Greta and such.