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Maybe this should be in Nostupidquestions as I'm aware the moon exists. And I guess there may be an orbit zone where things tend to remain in orbit. But curious...

The full context question is: For man-made satellites, would they benefit by having a "Self destruct" button?

Sure it may add more debris but since an explosion would scatter debris in all directions, anything flung up or down would cause it to get out of this geostationary zone/band.. And hopefully come crashing down to Earth, reducing overall debris? Compared to an abandoned satellite, remaining in orbit and breaking down due to relatively low energy collisions with surrounding debris.

Basically I'm trying to justify self destruct buttons. Thank you!

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Sorry to disappoint, but exploding something at GEO would make things worse.

All satellites in orbit of Earth will experience atmospheric drag. Even the Moon is bumping into gas atoms.

Geostationary satellites will eventually fall. It might take millions of years, but eventually the thin atmosphere will slow those satellites down enough that their orbit will fall into the thick, lower atmosphere where they'll burn up or crash into the Earth's surface.

Exploding a satellite up there will just make a shotgun spray of projectiles that will still take millions of years to fall. Assuming the projectiles shoot off in all directions fairly evenly, then the ones that get shot backwards relative to the motion of the satellite will end up in a lower orbit that will decay faster. The pieces that get shot forward might actually escape Earth orbit all together and become little asteroids orbiting the Sun.

The thing that's special about geostationary orbit isn't that the orbit of things at that altitude does not decay. That altitude is special because at that altitude, orbital speed is equal to the Earth's rotational speed. A satellite at that altitude over the equator will remain over that same longitude - it won't rise and set like the Moon, it will remain in the same spot overhead both night and day.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Hmm, it looks like you need a bit over a kilometer per second to escape Earth from GEO. I guess that's not impossible with high explosives. I don't think any shrapnel would make it back to earth, though, since they'd have to lose most of the 3 km/s

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Losing ~1.4 km/s at GEO would put a fragment into geostationary transfer orbit, with one side of the elliptical orbit at geostationary altitude and the other side at low orbit altitude where it would experience increased drag.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Ah, okay. So not quite most then. My bad; orbital mechanics takes some getting used to even at this elementary level.

Also, I just noticed, relevant username.

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