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[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (10 children)

Reading these comments makes understanding why the world is in its current state, extremely easy

Keep preaching and applying that brand of empathy guys, it will surely pay off eventually

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (9 children)

The simple fact is no one really cares about the plight of men, and this is obvious when you look at social service funding and especially homeless shelters.

We are in a 'bare branch' crisis, and back when this happened in medieval China, whole gangs of angry unmarriable men would form raider bands and just pillage and rape until they were put down by the military. It happened so often that warring states would purposely stage useless battles with massive losses on both sides to keep down the 'bare branch' population so they didn't get to rioting levels.

Maybe the fact that warfare is no longer culling the most desperate, lonely, and impressionable men has let to such a large population of unfocused, angry, lonely, and fundamentally unlikeable males.

It's mainly because biologically we evolved to have kids and die on a hunt, our evolution pressures just aren't capable of handling a male population without a certain degree of unnatural casualty.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

I'm actually impressed at how ridiculous this is. But I'll bite:

What's the plight of men?

Is it sexual frustration?

Is the solution ensuring that young men have access to sex, regardless of the means or impact on women?

If that isn't feasible, are we simply supposed to engage in war to cull off these sex-starved, victimized men who seemingly are incapable of contributing to society in any other way then impregnating women and waging violence?

If so, what is the benefit of living in such a world?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Men see their value as partners, leaders, and providers and also see little viable paths to be any of those things.

It's the same issues as other genders to some degree just a lot of society really doesn't want to listen to a man who's down and out, because toxic masculinity isn't just how men act but also how society can expect men to act.

Our legends are soldiers who die for great things. Workers that broke their bodies for the loved ones. Psychopath that gave up their humanity to be something important. All of which imply that just being isn't important not by itself, and again that how people treat you. Try just being, not "making something of your self", not "being a generous lover/boyfriend/husband", just being a person and people honestly treat you like crap.

The dude that fed the ducks where I lived was fucking awesome, but people treated him like he was a fucking bum. The apartments harassed him for taking care of them.

The homeless people I've talked to, almost always had the same story, hardworking to take care of a family, something took them from them, drugs, cheating, injury (and thus disability), and then when they "had nothing" they dropped out.

Everyone hears their stories and thinks the same thing though, that they buck up and do something with their lives. Never just for their sake, not because having connections and meaning in their lives would be good for them, but it's disgusting to others to not be useful.

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