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Is this for real? It would make sense why my adhd feels like it is getting worse as I age. I quit speed, then smoking, then caffeinated drinks.
Edit: yes, thank you all for adhdsplaining stimulants to me. I know about speed and caffeine. I was simply asking about nicotine.
Nicotine is a mild simulant, yes. All of those things are frequently used by people to "self-medicate", but the downsides are obviously pretty steep.
I was under the impression nicotine was on a similar risk profile to caffeine. Are you referring to the tobacco plant in general?
this is my impression as well regarding nicotine. however, i have noticed people are not interested in examining that and continue to conflate nicotine with cigarettes (high risk) and vaping (misconstrued risk).
i also believe many view a nicotine addiction through a sort of moral lens they don't apply so readily to caffeine.
It's generational trauma regarding smoking. The last couple generations were pretty moved by the discoveries regarding smoking and now overreact. Attitude is much more rational in gen z
Can't believe I'm seeing this level of rationality on this community.
Nicotine in pretty much any amount is cardiotoxic, caffeine (in moderate amounts) is pretty much neutral afaik. They both may or may not be carcinogens depending on the study. Thats pretty much it I think
Nicotine is worse.
The LD50 of caffine is over 100 mg per kg. That's not just a dosage difference, either. Nicotine gum comes in 2-6 mg doses - chewing 5 pieces of extra-strength gum can bring you up to the LD50.
Drinking 5 celsius drinks - one of the strongest (and most maliciously marketed) energy drinks - at 200mg per can doesn't bring you even close to the LD50 of caffeine.
Nicotine is:
You can be genetically susceptible to nicotine addiction because your grandmother smoked cigarrettes. Not because she herself was genetically susceptible - no, literally just because she smoked. And the same effect would occur if your grandmother only used tobacco-free nicotine products.
Congrats kids, welcome to the new generation of Big Tobacco influencing society to think it's okay. History sure does rhyme.