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    [–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 39 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (9 children)

    I think the abundance of trans women (≈ women who were raised as boys) is proof the social conditioning the only factor in why there aren't more women in STEM fields. Women love this shit just as much as men, but they're actively steered away from it.

    (Yes, women face other challenges beyond lack of exposure, but I think all of them can be traced back to social factors as well, such as how men are conditioned to treat women.)

    [–] boonhet@lemm.ee 14 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Your conclusion is probably correct, but I don't think your proof works. I'm going to play devil's advocate now: The thing to consider here is that these women were not just raised as boys, they were also born as boys. They may be on HRT now, but what if there are differences between how the male and female brains work that come from the Y chromosome? Or your hormonal balance in your formative years? I would hope not because that gives sexists way too much ammo, but we do not know for sure.

    There's other potential reasons for all the trans women in software engineering too. Children who don't feel comfortable in their own identities are probably way less social - I don't have enough trans friends to confirm this is true, but I feel like it might be. Not being particularly popular in school drives you to gaming as a hobby because you don't need friends for that, and at least in the 90s and 00s that would usually mean tinkering with your PC (because Windows never fucking worked properly, did it now). This would also explain all the furries IMO.

    [–] unbuckled_easily933@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

    but what if there are differences between how the male brain and female brains work that come from the Y chromosome?

    This assumes that trans women are born with a male brain. The consensus of the scientific community says that this is false - being born with a female brain in a male body is how someone is born trans which further supports the argument you are responding to.

    I’m paraphrasing here but essentially the SRY gene (that stimulates production of androgens in a fetus) is released at a different time than the formation of the brain. So it is possible, but rare for someone to be born with a brain that doesn’t match their body and poof that’s where trans people come from.

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    [–] weker01@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    I thought that the last state of the art opinion was that there is no reliable difference between the brains of the sexes? I am by no means informed on this.

    Could that mean that at some point one could detect transgender people using medical testing?

    [–] unbuckled_easily933@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

    I believe I recall reading something about this becoming a possible future ethical dilemma but I don’t have a source to cite right now.

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