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Say The Words: American Concentration Camp (davidgate.substack.com)

submitted 2 months ago by technocrit to c/[email protected]

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By all criteria, this a concentration camp. Not “concentration camp” as rhetorical inflation, or emotionally manipulative shorthand, or edgy metaphor—but as in: literally.

As in: detention without trial, state control, inhumane living conditions, forced labor, dehumanization, brutal violence, isolation from accountability, psychological torture, and—by every available logical extension—murder.

That last one we can’t yet verify in the strict evidentiary sense, but the circumstances suggest it like smoke suggests fire, and they are already trying to hide their actions and deny what is occurring.

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[–] nargis 31 points 2 months ago (4 children)

It's nothing new. I would have linked to the archive photos of Abu Ghraib prison photos, but I'm not sure it's allowed, since they're NSFW. The fact that Bukele declared that no one can escape pretty much confirms that it's an actual death camp. There are metal bunks just like the ones in Auschwitz. The prisoners are kept inside for 23.5 hours, with half an hour of exercise in the lobby. The cells claim to have 1 sq. m. for each prisoner, with 80-100 prisoners, and there is no sunlight, only 24/7 artificial light. The prisoners don't speak(allegedly), and have no clocks or reading material. Some have lost their voice from not speaking. It's impossible to keep so many people in one place; some detainees must have died eventually to make space for the newcomers. Food is scant, and violence is common.

Funnily enough, I've seen a couple of articles refer to them as 'gulags'. They aren't fucking gulags. Spreading their propaganda even when they see something this horrifying. It would be funny if it wasn't nauseating.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You’re just describing 99% of prisons. They’re not “concentration camps”.

[–] nargis 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I don't know about what standards Australia has, but I'm pretty sure prisoners are held after trials, provided Bibles, given some sunlight, exercise and are allowed to write to their family or do something useful, like making cloth bags to sell. Last I checked, prisoners aren't kept silent either. Even the fucking British colonists had allowed Nehru to write in prison. Do y'all keep your prisoners in such conditions in Australia?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Let’s look at what you said originally:

“metal bunks like auschwitz”

Metal bunks you mean? Yes, most prisons worldwide.

“Kept inside for 23.5 hours, half an hour of exercise”

Yep, most prisons worldwide offer at most 1 hour of yard time, often not even outside.

“1sqm per prisoner”

Since most rooms are for 2 prisoners, that means 2sqm, and yep, that checks out for most prisons worldwide in terms of their cells. Cells are generally a bunk bed and a toilet and that’s it.

“No sunlight, only 24/7 artificial light”

Yep, most prisons worldwide. Windows mean opportunities for escape and more unnecessary upkeep.

“Prisoners don’t speak (allegedly)”

This one’s not even worth responding to because it’s “allegedly”.

“Have no clocks or reading material”

Prisoners don’t need clocks. They don’t exactly have things to do and places to be. This also seems like an “allegedly” btw.

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