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[โ€“] VolumetricShitCompressor 3 points 2 months ago (32 children)

How good is Proton as a paid all-in-one solution for e-mail, calendar, and cloud storage?

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (13 children)

@VolumetricShitCompressor

Technically speaking, it's good. But 2 questions:

Do you need end-to-end encrypted emails and cloud storage?
If not, you may find cheaper alternatives (if cost is a thing for you). :)

[โ€“] VolumetricShitCompressor 1 points 2 months ago (12 children)

What would be those alternatives? My main point would be to get away from microsoft with my mail and a somewhat sizable cloud storage (0,5-1 TB).

What about kSuite? Are they better?

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

@VolumetricShitCompressor

Between Proton & kSuite, both are good, you just need to compare prices and features. :)

Both have beautiful and modern interfaces - you can create a free account on both to test.

Both companies offer very different services from each other included in their suite, e.g., Proton has a VPN and Password Manager, while Infomaniak offer video call, transfer of large files, office online etc.

It also depends on whether you read your emails in a mobile app, browser or email client and the importance you attach to E2E encryption.

[โ€“] VolumetricShitCompressor 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So E2E encryption would be Proton and accessing mails on mobile apps would be kSuite, right?

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

@VolumetricShitCompressor

E2E encryption would be Proton, but you can use Proton Mail through their official app on mobile.

The main "problem" with Proton is usually related to using an e-mail client like Thunderbird, AppleMail, or Outlook to receive Proton e-mails on your desktop.

If you want to use Proton e-mail on Outlook or Thunderbird on desktop, you need to install Proton Bridge. This program will run automatically in the background. This is what handles the encryption and decryption of your emails as they enter and leave your computer. (it eliminates the complexity associated with manual encryption tools)

Since Proton Bridge is made for desktop, the only supported way to use Proton Mail *on smartphones* is through the official Proton Mail app.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

@ueeu @VolumetricShitCompressor Am trying out Infomaniakโ€™s ksuite and kdrive services at the moment. So far, so good. Itโ€™s a pretty solid alternative to Google Docs and Drive in my opinion - also has a Calendar.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

@AngelaScholder @ueeu @VolumetricShitCompressor Yup, checked that out. Pretty good too but full encryption scares me - I donโ€™t need it and if I lose the encryption key or forget where I put it, big problem. If there were a non encrypted service, Iโ€™d probably have chosen it.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

@alex_p_roe @ueeu @VolumetricShitCompressor OK, we just login and have access, but no idea if they have a recover the password option if you forget it.
The username and password is in our KeePass database (on our NAS and multiple copies and backups).

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

@AngelaScholder @ueeu @VolumetricShitCompressor Password and encryption keys are different - with some services, you can reset the password and not need a key. Donโ€™t know if #cryptpad is like that and Iโ€™m not sure I want to find out!

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

@alex_p_roe @ueeu @VolumetricShitCompressor I'm pretty sure that so far we never needed the encryption key with #cryptpad as though all other encryption keys are in our KeePass database, I didn't store any for #cryptpad .
I'll have a look at that.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

@AngelaScholder @ueeu @VolumetricShitCompressor Message from Cryptdrive log in page: "Due to the encrypted nature of CryptPad, the service administrators will not be able to recover data in case you forget your username and/or password. Please save them in a safe place." so if you lose or forget your password - problem.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

@alex_p_roe @ueeu @VolumetricShitCompressor OK.....
For a lot of things it's the case that you should remember how to access it...

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

@AngelaScholder @ueeu @VolumetricShitCompressor True - but forgetting a password is not an issue if you can reset it. It becomes an issue when you can't. I'll stick with systems that allow me to reset passwords for now ๐Ÿ™‚ For me, that rules out #cryptpad and other similar services.

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