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Dude straight up reached under the superstructure and pulled it up to show the ocean of resentment and righteous malice working class people have for the elites

The collective mind is willing, but the body politic is drowned by the old reactions and false consciousness

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 6 months ago (5 children)

i dont think even the most cynical leftist doubted that the material conditions in the US have declined enough that there is some widespread sympathy for revolution, even before the CEOvering. the problem has always been organizing that sympathy into a coherent left movement, a front on which we've made 0 progress and on which we show no signs of making progress

Death to America

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

Just going to put this out there, and it's possible I'm misremembering something I read or misinterpreted when I originally read it but

i dont think even the most cynical leftist doubted that the material conditions in the US have declined enough that there is some widespread sympathy for revolution

I think this is completely at odds with reality. Just on this site I'm pretty sure I've read and seen upbeared a number of times people suggest that not just Americans but all Westerners in general are so benefited by imperialism that they're all subconsciously supportive of the current order and lack essentially any capacity to support revolution.

Do you really never see that sort of sentiment expressed?

EDIT: more frequent than this is "some individual westerners might be capable of class consciousness, but the bulk of them never could be"

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

Just on this site I'm pretty sure I've read and seen upbeared a number of times people suggest that not just Americans but all Westerners in general are so benefited by imperialism that they're all subconsciously supportive of the current order and lack essentially any capacity to support revolution.

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