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No.
Death > imprisonment
You can't suffer while dead, and you certainly can't be a prison pimped slave worker while dead. There's also no way to profit from an execution so far as I can tell.
Some people need to be gotten rid of instead of being made to suffer on my dime. This is especially true depending on your views on free will. It's triple true when you consider how much crime is just a result of unnatural financial pressures that none of us evolved to deal with.
That is frankly a disgusting point of view. Death and non-rehabilitory imprisonment are both wrong but not because it "costs money".
This is clearly from an incredibly privileged person, because if you understood how minoritized people are treated by the legal system you wouldn't be arguing for more executions.
hey cool, then you can request the judge for the death penalty instead of life (people have done that before). But you don't get to make that decision for other people. And to do it over your tax money? (which by the way, is a fraction that your employer steals from the value you produce for them every day)? it's a misanthropic and myopic selfish callousness; whether or not you have struggled it is a sign of insularity to ascribe your experiences to others and how it "should be", and to do it in such a transactional way is even more disturbing.
unclench your jaw and breathe friend, this is unreasonable
I can see that you haven't been through pain and helplessness at the whim of government, and that's how you think death is worse. Looks like you also believe they give us options and rights the way they tell you in school.
There are fates worse than death, you're right. But I think you would be one of the few who would prefer it to prison as it currently exists. But I think a sub point you have made is that prison is tantamount to torture, and I in some ways agree with that, which is why I say that non-rehabilitory prisons are unethical. It's also the model in the entire US.
Trapping people is evil.
Yes, I agree. Particularly when it isn't just rehabilitative and is punitive.
https://youtu.be/pgywn9zOIMs
You completely ignored the most important part to continue harping on your personal qualms.
That is a perfectly reasonable compromise. I too feel that life imprisonment is worse than death, but most people being wrongfully executed do not. You can acknowledge the superior solution then continue on your personal experience.
Not to diminish your experience, but Marcellus Williams went through far, far more than you have. He disagreed. So since you haven’t been through pain and helplessness at the whim of government as he had, is your opinion worth nothing next to his?
Of course not. Everyone can have an opinion on the death sentence. I’m sorry for what happened to you, but it doesn’t automatically make you right.
I directly addressed that first point, so I'm gonna leave that one alone. You also think it's like they tell you in school and news.
Where? I reread this thread and all I see is the same complaining about your personal situation. You only replied one time to that comment, and there was no attempt at justifying anything.
It seems like you suffered significant trauma and it’s affected your worldview heavily. You saw a story about someone being executed despite evidence of their innocence and came in here not to suggest a better path but to say death > imprisonment and keep bringing up your situation. And yeah, that genuinely sucks and we all wish it didn’t happen. But your contribution here is based on your feeling of misery and helplessness which isn’t useful because the man who actually was executed didn’t want it.
The exact comment you replied to. The courts don't operate how they say they do. They don't give you choices. Your defense doesn't matter. The stuff in this news post is just to keep you all busy. You don't know because you see what you're shown.
If you think someone is bad enough to kill, you should kill them yourself and don't drag it out.
This? This says nothing about the proposed solution— which should satisfy you— or policy as a whole. Just personal gripes.
That’s exactly what they did to Marcellus Williams.
Let me guess the next comment: bleak worldview, we only know what school told us, personal gripe.