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I had basically given up on electoralism for years at this point.
I do not believe the western working class by and large has any revolutionary potential, basically JDPON-pilled.

But the genocide in Palestine really made me more invested in this whole dog and pony show again.
I guess I figured like…sure bourgeoise democracy will not bring about socialism, but at the very least you can still get some concessions potentially out of it.
Perhaps I was naive, but like…I wanted to hope there was some way the Democrats could be convinced to stop it by November, even if it was electoralist bullshit I feel like the Palestinians deserved (and still deserve) even a futile attempt.

But seeing the shit with the DSA, especially the SMC and Groundwork caucuses, seeing unions who oppose the genocide endorse Biden/Harris right out the gate, seeing the Uncommitted movement do the same while the Harris campaign has done nothing but spit in their face….

I am filled with a helpless rage. Americans are the most pathetic contemptible creatures on this earth.

I’M NOT EVEN ASKING FOR SOCIALISM! ALL I’M ASKING FOR IS THE DEMOCRATS TO COME AROUND ON AN ISSUE 77% OF DEMOCRATS AND 61% OF AMERICANS OPPOSE!
BUT EVEN THAT IS TOO MUCH, TOO HARD FOR THESE ORGANIZATIONS TO FIGHT FOR EVEN WHEN IT IS ALLEDGELY THEIR WHOLE REASON FOR EXISTING!!

I knew Americans were useless and selfish, and short-sighted and stupid…but I didn’t think they were to this extent.
That was my mistake I guess.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago (21 children)

the point is to have enough people threaten to withhold their vote unless something is done by the election, it doesn't matter if there is a viable third party it only matters that Harris will lose Michigan and/or other states.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (14 children)

All due respect, and with the understanding that I'm not a brilliant political strategist. Can you explain how we get from point A (threaten to withhold votes) to point B (a positive outcome in Palestine)?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (6 children)

If Harris and the democrats fear they will lose crucial swing states and potentially the election because of what is happening in Palestine then they might be convinced to change course.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (5 children)

That seems pretty naive, given how they've been completely unwilling to compromise so far, and seem very confident they won't have to.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago

they're confident they won't have to because of spineless fucks like you who are supporting them unconditionally

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

That seems pretty naive

Says the dipshit talking

they've been completely unwilling to compromise so far, and seem very confident they won't have to

So let's support them anyway? Okay, god you deserve to be thrown full force into the deepest pit. You deserve, at best, an oubliette so deep and so dark you forget what the sun even is

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

That seems pretty naive

jagoff smuglord

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

K, I don’t care.
Either nothing happens or something happens.

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