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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (44 children)

The technology was created to replace voice actors. That's the actual purpose. Its very existence hurts their profession and benefits studios. You can not be a studio, use this technology, and claim to care about ethics, anymore than Amazon can claim to care about the workers as it invests in the machines to replace them.

No one is holding a gun to their head forcing them to us AI. They made a choice. There is no "ethical" way to cripple the livelihood of working class people for the benefit of your business. Just stop using the word.

It doesn't matter if you compensate or get their approval, because the fact is the existence of the technology in the industry effectively compels all voice actors to agree to let it use their voice, or they can't get work. It becomes a false choice.

If there was no financial benefit, if it truly made no difference in how much a studio pays in labor or the amount the artists make, there would be no reason for studios to want to use it.

[–] [email protected] 94 points 1 year ago (21 children)

Technology making labour obsolete is the goal we should all be wanting.

Attack capitalism not the technology.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yea, see i just don't like how we first automated creativity instead of like, idk, manual labor????

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Manual labor has been being automated since the industrial revolution.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay but I still have to fold my own laundry.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And do you wash your clothes in a bucket, wring them out in a mangler before beating your rugs with a stick to get the dust out of them?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And I don't make my own paints either when doing art. I still agree with the basic original point:

It is disappointing that we're currently automating creativity far faster than manual labour. I'm angry that my art is getting automated away faster than my folding of laundry.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

It's not; you're just looking at the beginning of automating creativity when labor automation has been going on for over a hundred years. The introduction of new tech is always more disruptive than refining established tech. Besides which, VA is particularly sensitive to disruption because every VA does essentially the same job- one AI can be programmed to speak in thousands (millions?) of different voices, whereas one manual labor job doesn't necessarily require the same actions as another.

Also it's funny you complain about laundry, given how much doing laundry has been automated.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The original point being:

yea, see i just don’t like how we first automated creativity instead of like, idk, manual labor???

emphasis mine, but this is just incorrect. Technology has been reducing the need for manual labour (or rather increasing the amount of useful work done with manual labour) since the wheel and the plow.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

And people still have to lift heavy shit, crawl around in dangerous spaces and generally harm their health to make a living.

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