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The latest 0.18 version of Lemmy was released an hour ago and Sopuli will be updated to it at 18:15. Be vary of possible instance downtime.

I now also made a Patreon page in case you are interested in supporting Sopuli and ensuring its longevity.

Happy midsummer to all!

EDIT: Holy moly, the UI got a lot more modern and elegant! Tell if you have noticed any performance improvements or something interesting!

Lemmyn uusin versio 0.18 julkaistiin tunti sitten ja Sopuli päivitetään siihen klo 18:15. Varautukaa instanssin mahdolliseen alhaalla olemiseen.

Tein myös Patreon-sivun jos Sopulin tukeminen ja sen jatkuvuuden takaaminen kiinnostaa.

Hyvää juhannusta kaikille!

EDIT: No huh, käyttöliittymästä tuli paljon modernimpi ja elegantimpi! Kertokaa jos olette huomanneet suorituskyvyn parantuneen tai jotain mielenkiintoista!

Many communities show "Waiting for approval" upon click the subscribe button twice (first time it does nothing).

While I am technically now already following those communities, they still show as I am not approved on it. Whats going on?

btw latest version of Jebroa displays a warning that 0.17.* is lower the the minimum supported version.

Just wondering if it's a problem with Sopuli, me / my VPN, or trying to load communities on other instances?

Or is there something I just don’t understand? For example this post only seems to show on lemmy.world. Posts in the other direction seems to travel fine.

this usually happens, but i can't always reproduce it. it makes the page illegible.

Hey there, so I registered to Sopuli recently and I'm still getting through the transition out of Reddit, I'll admit right now I'm enjoying the shit show too much to step away but once RiF stops working, I'm probably gonna be around here a lot more.

But right now my feed seems completely dead. I spent some time subscribing to some popular communities from different servers and I try browsing local, all and subscribed. Both hot and active serves me posts that are days, sometimes weeks old.

What can I do to get more content in my feed? I was just browsing the kbin front page (without an account) and was seeing fresher posts from Lemmy servers than I'm getting in Jerboa so it must be something wrong on my end and not just that's there's too little content.

Right now gifs seem to have a loader and don't play unless the user manually clicks on it. Any ideas?

I keep getting a SyntaxError saying something isn't valid JSON/can't be converted to JSON. Any idea on what that means and how to address it?

Not familiar with coding so any help would be appreciated!

I can see the reasoning behind all the other instances, but what was the red flag situation with reddthat?

Lemmy's algorithm seems to mostly show highly upvoted memes from two or three days ago, without any new comments in the past 24 hours. For example, I did not see c/Suomi's weekend thread despite it being newer and having like 40 comments. Is this normal or have I botched my settings?

This is probably a feature and not a bug but when I get a reply to a message and I click to see the context it takes me out of sopuli and logs me out. I think it's because it's on a sub that's on another instance but I'm not sure. Still trying to figure out this platform.

EDIT: Apparently clicking the non-colored context button takes me to the message but doesn't log me out

Video posts from other instances don't load the video. It just shows this:

I haven't been getting emails from a few recent notifications. The most recent mail is from 14.6

As adjustments have to made regarding how this instance sends email, registration has been temporarily disabled. I can't really estimate how long this will take. Today I also updated the FAQ.

EDIT 20.06.2023: The problem is now fixed and registrations are open again.

Koska sähköpostien lähettämiseen tällä instanssilla pitää tehdä säätämistä, rekisteröinti on tilapäisesti poissa käytöstä. En voi oikein arvioida kuinka pitkään tässä kestää. Tänään päivitin myös UKK:ta.

EDIT 20.06.2023: Ongelma on nyt korjattu ja rekisteröityminen on taas auki.

When I made a post, it takes multiple tries to send it.

Most of the times the Create button on browser will spin indefinitely, needing to create the post again. When it is decided the post would be sent, it is instead sent immediately without wait.

Is the federation just incomplete or is there a real problem? A few kbin "magazines" can be found in communities but not all. e.g. !RedditMigration@kbin.social is not available while !kbinMeta@kbin.social is.

Sorry if this isn't the correct place to ask, but I've noticed on my homepage (correct term?) the feed updates top down (I'm using Active mode) and it sometimes does it in bursts (so new posts come through at once), this causes my place in the scroll to be moved, so I lose my place. Is there a way to stop the feed? Then I can just refresh manually once I've reached the bottom for example?

Many thanks!

I think this post by @Gaywallet@beehaw.org is worth sharing here as well:

cross-posted from: https://beehaw.org/post/524300

Beehaw is a community of individuals and therefore does not have any specific political affiliation. At this point in time, we do not know what the political leanings of most of our users are. I would suspect that many of them would identify as progressive because we are explicitly a safe space for minorities. What we stand for and the space that we're trying to make is compatible with many forms of politics. Unfortunately some political groups build themselves around and choose to elevate or tolerate hate speech. These are the only political groups that we are incompatible with. If any of it was unclear in any of the other posts, I will restate it all here. Beehaw does not tolerate hate speech. Beehaw is an explicitly safe space. We center and promote kindness because that is what we see and love in the world.

Some of the instances that we have chosen to defederate with have explicit political stances and ideologies. Their political stance and ideology had nothing to do with the choice to defederate. The choice to defederate was based on the amount of hate speech present on the instance and/or explicitly endorsing it. Since hate speech is not controlled on the instances that these users come from, we cannot expect them to change their behavior when participating on our instance. While users may exist on some of these platforms who do not spread hate speech, the choice to defederate is made to reduce the burden on our moderators and admins. Occasionally these instances or users from these instances will point their fingers at Beehaw and make claims about our political leanings or whether certain kinds of politics are banned. To be explicitly clear, the only kind of politics that are banned here are those which enable hate speech such as fascism.

Politics on the internet

Many, if not most discussions of politics on the internet are poisoned by virtue signaling. When they are not poisoned by virtue signaling, discussions are often just ways to vent emotions. I believe the reason for this is the platforms themselves and the incentives to engage online. On the internet I can adjust my level of anonymity. An adjustable level of anonymity allows me to change how I speak to others while simultaneously mitigating or removing any consequences to myself. This of course varies based on the platform and what I'm attempting to accomplish, but in the context of speaking with others on the internet, I can be relatively consequence free to say whatever I want on most major platforms. Particularly negative or hateful behavior might cause me to be banned off of a platform, but through the use of technology or other means, I can simply create another account (or migrate to another platform) and continue the same speech. In malicious terms, I do not have to worry about managing someone else's emotions or my connection to them.

In real life, on the other hand, it is not as easy to pass myself off as someone else. I must be much more aware of how I speak to others because consequences can be much more dire. When discussing politics with others, I may alienate them or myself and so I may choose to be more open to listen rather than soapboxing. The people I'm interacting with may be a regular part of my life and may be people I have come to respect. Understanding how they think might be vitally important to maintaining or improving our connection.

I am presenting the internet and real life as two ends of a spectrum but it is more complicated than that. There are people who are very visible and tied to their identities on the internet just as there are people in real life who use false identities created to mask their true identity. Interactions vary in level of connection, platform, and who happens to know who we are in other spaces on the internet. There are plenty of people who talk on the internet about politics with the explicit goal of changing the minds of others. Some of these individuals are not using this as an outlet to manage their own emotions. These generalizations are presented in this way because I need to talk about these patterns in the context of the platform Lemmy. I'm asking everyone on this platform to be wary of anyone who focuses on politics but is unable to explain the issues themselves. They are probably trying to deceive you, are virtue signaling, or projecting their own insecurities and you should be skeptical of their approach.

I would encourage all of you to think about incentives when presented with political drama online. It is easy to get engaged because politics has a direct and often scary effect on our lives. In this community, it is not difficult to find individuals who are regularly marginalized by politicians. Especially for these minorities, it is completely valid to get emotionally invested in politics and I would personally encourage doing so on some level, but we need to think carefully about the other parties present in a conversation and whether they are willing to listen or incentivized to do so. For the people who are hiding behind anonymity and posting to vent their emotional frustrations with the system they are likely not invested in the community we are growing here and it may be appropriate and healthy to ignore or disengage with these folks.

Forking

It is in this political context that forking from the main Lemmy development has been presented. People are quick to point to potential upsides of forking, but the upsides are an after thought presented as a means to bolster or justify forking. These justifications are for what is ultimately a moral issue. The question at hand is whether it is moral to use a platform developed by someone who has committed acts which one deems immoral. To anyone posing this question, I would ask them to consider what other technology they use every day and to trace the roots back to each invention along the path to today's day and age. The world has a colonialist history, rife with violence and immoral behavior. Unless you retreat the woods and recreate technologies yourself from scratch, it's impossible to live in a modern society without benefiting from technology built on countless dead bodies in history.

We do not have the technical expertise to create a new tool from scratch - all we can do is leverage tools that already exist to create communities like this. At the time we created this instance, the service we decided on was Lemmy. We did so with awareness of discussions around the politics of the main instance and developers. I think we've done a decent job outlining what we intend to do with this instance and explicitly made strong stances against hate speech and other behavior we do not agree with, including where we disagree with them. When taken in the context of computing in general, these political leanings are also not unique in their social and political harm as compared to some of the tech giants out there. The same is true in comparison to some of the famous tech inventors and innovators; in comparison to the history of computer technology; in comparison to the exploitation and problematic mining of rare earth minerals used in technology; in comparison to the damages we cause to the earth to create the energy used to power our servers. We can follow this path of thinking back all that we want to, and ultimately it's just not a particularly fruitful discussion to zero in on whether the political leaning of the main developers and instance are in perfect alignment with what we want to accomplish. We are not explicitly endorsing their viewpoint by using their software and we are not tied to using this software forever.

I cannot stress enough how much bandwidth has been taken up by these discussions in recent days. It been brought up as frequently as every few hours across Discord, Matrix, inbox replies, comment replies, new threads, and other forms of communication. We're currently dealing with a lot of other issues like keeping the server running, expanding to add more communities, moderating the communities amidst a huge influx of users posting and reply content from other instances, managing expenses, optimizing our server, planning for the future, and so much more. We cannot entertain philosophical discussions on all of the wonderful things we 'could do' when we're struggling to keep up with what we're already currently doing. We have not yet received a serious proposal for a fork which details operational needs when it comes to the maintenance, support, and resources needed to accomplish and maintain it. Simply put we do not believe a fork is necessary at this time.

I find this amazing. I hope Lemmy takes over as the one Reddit alternative. As I've been experimenting with it today I think it's on an amazing growth path and hopefully more streamlined communities will be setup too!

hi all!

this is kinda a test post/help request/bug report

I tried to post an image to cats@midwest.social, which is then uploaded to the local instance (sopuli). link itself is working, but the preview/thumbnail in the post isn't showing up and the image isn't accessible that way.

I tried through Jerboa and now through the web frontend, but no luck either.

posts:
https://sopuli.xyz/post/638272
https://sopuli.xyz/post/638296

so, I'll try to post another picture of Loki to try if it's because of the remote instance or whatever is happening.

if anyone has an idea... I'm running out of them

edit: ok, at least for me the image doesn't show either. is this just me or anyone else having the same issue?

edit 2: I've made a successful test of an image post, that wasn't created with my Pixel 7 Pro and that one shows without issue
https://sopuli.xyz/post/639940
I guess, I'm hitting a limit somewhere or maybe some meta data causes a hiccup. size wise the images aren't really big (1.5MB, 1.8MB). so, not really sure what the issue could be

edit 3: well, I've tried 'Scrambled EXIF' and 'Exif Eraser' and at least that didn't change a thing. when I let the image through Signal, where AFAIK EXIF data gets removed and also done compression is done, I can post the image.

edit 4: to verify it's the file size, I tried now with a downloaded hd picture (3.5MB) and that one doesn't show either. here is the test post: https://sopuli.xyz/post/640216
maybe it's not even a limit on the file size, but a transmission timeout?

I think this is currently the end of my testing, as I can't think of much more test cases.

edit 5: nope, large picture just took more time and shows correctly bitte. must be something with the Pixel 7 Pro

Selaan sopulia kirjautuneena omaan instanssiin. Linkit yhteisöihin ovat ilmeisesti muodossa [!suomi@sopuli.xyz](https://sopuli.xyz/c/suomi). Tämä vaihtaa sivuston sopuliin, johon on luonnollisesti eri kirjautuminen. Kokeilin tehdä linkkejä eri muodoissa. [!suomi@sopuli.xyz](c/suomi@sopuli.xyz)pitää saman instanssin.

Voi kokeilla linkkejä vaikka tämän läpi: https://suppo.fi/c/suomi@sopuli.xyz

Well, whew again! The influx of new users into Sopuli surprised not only me, but also Hetzner's VPS. The disk space ran out fast, and Sopuli was down today for many hours because of this. I was busy with work, which didn't help with the issue.

I bought extra disk space from Hetzner, and the founder of brand new Lemmy instance https://lemmy.world/ !ruud@lemmy.world helped to use it on the VPS. Really big thanks for him! Apologies to both new and old users, hopefully this will not happen again. Happy weekend, everyone!

Edit 03.06.2023: Now there is 80 GB of extra disk space for Sopuli, apparently 40 wasn't enough. In addition to extra space I also bought peace of mind. Sopuli was again offline but no more!

No huh huh taas! Uusien käyttäjien tungos Sopuliin yllätti minun lisäksi myös Hetznerin VPS:n. Levytila kävi nopeasti loppuun, ja Sopuli oli tänään alhaalla monta tuntia. Asiaa eivät paljoakaan auttaneet työkiireet.

Ostin Hetzneriltä lisää levytilaa, ja ihkauuden https://lemmy.world/ -instanssin perustaja !ruud@lemmy.world auttoi minua ottamaan sen VPS:llä käyttöön. Todella paljon kiitoksia hänelle! Pahoittelut sekä uusille että vanhoille käyttäjille, toivottavasti tämä ei tule toistumaan. Hyvää viikonloppua kaikille!

Muokkaus 03.06.2023: Nyt ylimääräistä levytilaa Sopulia varten on 80 gigatavua, 40 ei ollutkaan tarpeeksi. Lisätilan lisäksi ostin myös mielenrauhaa. Sopuli oli taas alhaalla mutta ei enää!

Well, whew! As a result of Reddit's recent spark of genius, the number of users looking for a new home has been growing at quite a brisk pace. In the last 12 hours, over 30 new membership applications were received. This has never happened before in Sopuli's short history. It's a bit like what happened to Mastodon when Twitter had its own spark of genius. I'm surprised and also excited.

Anyway, welcome to new users! Feel free to check out Sopuli and Lemmy in general. If you have any questions, you should first check FAQ if the question has already been answered. A list of communities, both on Sopuli and on other instances, is conveniently displayed in Communities and here. If you are planning to create a new community for a topic, you should check there to see if one has already been created and if the topic is fitting for it.

No huh huh! Redditin viimeaikaisten neronleimauksien seurauksena uutta kotia etsiviä käyttäjiä on tullut varsin reippaalla tahdilla. Viimeisen 12 tunnin aikana tuli yli 30 uutta käyttäjähakemusta. Tällaista ei ole Sopulin lyhyen historian aikana tapahtunut aiemmin. Tämä on vähän sama asia kuin mitä vuorostaan Mastodonille kävi Twitterin neronleimausten takia. Olen yllättynyt ja myös innostunut.

Joka tapauksessa, tervetuloa uusille käyttäjille! Tutustukaa Sopuliin ja Lemmyyn ylipäänsä vapaasti. Jos on kysyttävää, kannattaa ensiksi katsoa UKK:sta, jos kysymykseen on jo vastattu. Listan yhteisöistä sekä Sopulissa että muilla instansseilla näkee kätevästi Yhteisöt-näkymän kautta ja täältä. Mikäli aikoo perustaa uuden yhteisön jollekin aiheelle, kannattaa katsoa, onko sellainen jo perustettu ja sopiiko aihe siihen.

Komia!