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[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Then they go in on foot to confirm instead of bombing the shit out of it

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 years ago (2 children)

If they blow it up, there's no way to prove they're wrong.

If they go on foot, people are going to ask where the proof is that they were right.

So I'll be very surprised if they ever go in on foot.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Can't prove them wrong when they murder the journalists.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If they go in on foot, they're at much higher risk of being murdered by Hamas terrorists. On top of that, people like you will condemn them for going in and raiding a hospital.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's murder when it's civilians...

If an invading enemy military force suffers casualties... That's war.

Not exactly complicated

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Those soldiers have families at home that are at risk because of these terrorists. Why should their lives be risked as well because the scummy terrorists use hospitals and civilians as human shields?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

When an opposing force uses human shields, you aren’t supposed to attack the fucking human shields. You’re supposed to show you value human life and try another way. If you kill the human shields, it’s a war crime.

Especially since everything in Gaza seems to be a “human shield.” You don’t get to just bomb tunnels through a hospital without people calling you a war criminal.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Moral dilemmas aside. Killing human shields or collateral is actually not a war crime. Using human shields is. People are throwing around that term without thinking.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I’m not throwing “human shield” around like it’s a defined term. It’s a war crime.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I meant the term war crime that you keep referring to everything as. Those civilians are being used as human shields by Hamas. There is no question there.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I’m not referring to everything as a war crime. Here’s a list of war crimes as defined by the UN: https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/war-crimes.shtml

Hamas committed war crimes by killing civilians, taking hostages, and using human shields. I’ve seen rumors they used sexual violence as a weapon too.

Israel’s use of collective punishment, destroying civilian infrastructure, and cutting off food and water are also war crimes. Israel is probably violating the proportionality standard. (It definitely has in the past.)

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago

Several soldiers on foot would be a LOT better for the hospital than a missile if that is really all they are looking for, although that doesn't seem to fit with what they've done so far

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Seems awfully convenient...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Also sounds exactly like something a terrorist org would do. Both sides seem to be competing for who I should dislike more.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

Not just would do. It's a known fact with plenty of evidence that Hamas stores and fires rockets from schools and hospitals.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

Oh, well, if Israel says . . .

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

This seems awfully familiar.