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Staggering amounts of toxic “forever chemicals” have been found in freshwater fish, but there is no federal guidance on what is a safe amount to eat

Bill Eisenman has always fished.

“Growing up, we ate whatever we caught — catfish, carp, freshwater drum,” he said. “That was the only real source of fish in our diet as a family, and we ate a lot of it.”

Today, a branch of the Rouge River runs through Eisenman’s property in a suburb north of Detroit. But in recent years, he has been wary about a group of chemicals known as PFAS, also referred to as “forever chemicals,” which don’t break down quickly in the environment and accumulate in soil, water, fish, and our bodies.

The chemicals have spewed from manufacturing plants and landfills into local ecosystems, polluting surface water and groundwater, and the wildlife living there. And hundreds of military bases have been pinpointed as sources of PFAS chemicals leaching into nearby communities.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 36 points 2 years ago (2 children)

If you've been catching fish in a river or lake in the U.S. and eating it in the past 50 years or so, you've already been eating a ton of toxic shit. PFAS are just the icing on the cake. And we've basically saturated our entire generation with PFAS and will continue to do so until companies stop using them.

[–] girlfreddy@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 years ago

Companies -- But it's too H A R D to develop anything else!

[–] Zoboomafoo@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Detroit already has some pretty restrictive fishing limits from pollution: 3-4 sunfish or 1 bass per month

PFAS should be the least of this guy's concerns

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

But if we can’t make cars by dumping all the shit in the river, how will america do Americanisms?

[–] Zoboomafoo@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Do you think America is the only country with pollution?

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

No, but this article is about pollution in America, so my comment was targeted as such

[–] antidote101@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Plastics in our fetuses, PFAS in the fish... Smartest species on the planet apparently.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Well, evolution is pretty fucking stupid it turns out. It just tries shit generation after generation; and those with the winning genes have more babies. Humanity is arguably the longest running experiment by evolution, and we’re now getting to a point that “imagination” which is what put us ahead of the game, and allowed things like art and science to prevail, also allows people to “imagine” how they can step on those around them to have a better life themselves. I think evolution’s experiment of imagination is either coming to a close, or we’ll be replaced with true AI, which, really is sort of the peak of evolution anyway.

[–] guyrocket@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

PFAS is also in drinking water. I don't think there are any standards for levels of it in our water systems in the US.

I want to get a water filter but a good one it's around $300. Not all water filters remove PFAS.

[–] stealthnerd@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I have this which is $113 right now and I think you can catch it for a bit cheaper sometimes. Of course you have to factor in installation costs if you're not comfortable installing it yourself.

It's great though because it makes it easy to use filtered water even for tea, coffee, cooking etc since it's right at hand at the sink.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We shouldn't have to install shit like that; it should be the water treatment plant's job to filter it out.

[–] jesuiscequejesuis@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Some people have well water.

[–] Zorg@lemmings.world 2 points 2 years ago

Zero water claims to remove all PFAS, and you can get a pitcher for ~$30.

[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

there's microplastics in the rain

[–] 0x0 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Hey, you got rain in my microplastics

[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 3 points 2 years ago

my bad g, it's so hard to keep them separated these days

[–] WagnasT@iusearchlinux.fyi 6 points 2 years ago

Friendly reminder to donate blood or plasma regularly. We do need to deal with PFAS, but at least you can reduce the accumulation in your body.