this post was submitted on 07 Oct 2023
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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Both suck to be fair but Israel for me suck less. My reasoning mostly stem on their Ideology. Israel leans more to the US. Israel though recently leaning more to the extreme right, is still liberal compared to the rest of the nations in middle east. Woman has more freedom under Israel it seems. LGBT is more supported in Israel. For Hamas on the other hand has the same vibe for me with Taliban it doesn't help that it is supported by Iran and Russia. As for Ukraine I support them since they lean more to the West (EU and the US) and they are more democratic than Russia. That's my thought anyway.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 years ago (3 children)

So you support Israel committing genocide in Palestine because they lean west. Way to go lil bro

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 years ago

No surprise, given that genocide is the foundation of the western civilization.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Curious, Tell me why should I support the Hamas instead?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You should not. But you should see the conditions under which Hamas has formed and how the Occupiers are at fault for this. The greater Palestinian cause is far more in the moral right than Israel has ever been.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Thanks appreciate the answer.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Emotional responses don't lead to any solutions. Only reason will create a peaceful two state solution.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The Victims should never bargain with the invaders. Slava Ukraini Slava Palestini.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And that's why we will never have peace in the middle east. Both sides argue for violence and both sides only conduct emotional responses.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"I support the fascistsdoing a genocide because they're aligned with us and do our bidding" is the kind of honesty we're looking for from liberals on foreign policy.

Genuinely, thank you for your honesty. Can you please tell the rest of the libs to communicate like this and we wouldn't be as mean to them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

To be fair that is what both sides are doing China, Russia, US, EU, India and Iran. They all support those who do their bidding. Though I have a feeling everything is fascist on your dictionary that does not align with your view.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Counterpoint: aligning with the west/the US is bad.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Counter-counterpoint : alternative is WAY worse. Unless you count EU as dissimilar to US?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

And why is that?