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Today I've had a discussion on a nominally marxist subreddit with people arguing that it's actually ok to join the US military because of college or healthcare. They were making excuses about soldiers being better than cops and the people in the thread shut down the anti military positions. Wtf is happening, feds? Rad libs? I don't even know at this point. I'll post the screenshots if you're interested (with usernames and sub name edited out ofc)

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Downtown Jaffa got a Sejjil (old.reddit.com)

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Good move from Niger. (i.redd.it)

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I hate that we've come to a point where I'm cheering on rockets and drones (old.reddit.com)

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The original was posted on /r/thedeprogram by /u/Aarn_Dellwyyn on 2025-06-20 00:15:30+00:00.

I hate it. War really kills morality. I love people, I love humanity, how did we come to this? I feel like it's wrong, but when I see an Iranian rocket or drone striking Israel I can't help hoping it does some real damage to the Apartheid state or take out some IDF personnel. Technically it is cheering on people killing each other and that bothers me, but then again I didn't create this mess, the Zionists created this mess. I didn't bomb Iran, the Zionists did. I didn't commit genocide, and neither did the Palestinians or the Iranians. Everything about this is the fault of zionists. So I hate that I am thinking this, but I really can't not support Iran's recent actions here, whether that means Israeli deaths or not. This is the only way Israel will ever back off, if they will back off at all.

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When you read history in context of what Stalin and Mao did, you actually stop thinking these people were some gangsters or something... (old.reddit.com)

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I am reading Domenico Losurdo's Stalin, and I love the Utilitarian or consequentialist approach of Losurdo instead of deontological one ("Stalin did XYZ thing wrong... he is a irreparable monster!"). Losurdo contextualizes the times and compares and contrasts Stalin and USSR's actions with the liberal west and the Nazis BOTH (not only that Nazis)!

And when you properly situate these figures, you just stop believing that Stalin, Mao, Deng were some murderous, power-hungry, opportunistic scumbags. The Machiavellian framework through which liberals judge the leaders is flatly incorrect when you see historians like Kotkin and Montefiore literally saying that Stalin wasn't some sort of opportunistic gangster but genuinely committed to the cause!

Also, a reminder to read comrade u/Sugbaable 's copy pasta on comparison of Indian (reformist) socialism and Mao's revolutionary socialism - https://strikewire.xyz/Wu4AE.html

"How successful was socialism in the 20th century? Very.

In 1950, China and India were both enormous, poor agrarian countries. In China, land reform made the countryside more equal, and general welfare was included in public planning. India, despite hollow socialist rhetoric, was more "gradual", giving liberal rights to all (ie right to vote), but without tweaking land tenure or property relations (ie who gets paid). The results? China eliminated chronic poverty - and the associated high death rate - much faster than India, since day one. In 1989, economists Sen and Dreze found that:

Every eight years or so more people die in India because of its higher regular death rate than died in China in the gigantic famine of 1958-1961. India seems to manage to fill its cupboard with more skeletons every eight years than China put there in its years of shame. ("Hunger and Public Action" (1989), pg 214-215)

Specifically, even on top of the enormous Great Leap Forward (GLF) catastrophe (killing 15-35m), this excess death rate translated to a relative death toll in India of 130-145m according to UN data from 1950-2021; according to Western demographers’s data, the toll is near 300m (35-50m and 140m by 1980, respectively).

While Mao’s failures are often ahistorically focused on (and inflated), the hidden price of a gradual, liberal-inspired approach tower above. Why does this basic fact remain so unknown? See my article here for more (explanation, methods, sources, etc). "

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The Soroka hospital was hit by a blast wave, it wasn’t the target of missiles. As usual Israel is trying to use psychological manipulation to link Iran's attack on the IDF command center as an att... (i.redd.it)

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Original Title: The Soroka hospital was hit by a blast wave, it wasn’t the target of missiles. As usual Israel is trying to use psychological manipulation to link Iran's attack on the IDF command center as an attack on the hospital in order to downplay the casualties from this morning's attack.